This morning I was a guest on KCRS Talk Radio at the request of their morning show hosts. The station is very conservative, the listeners perhaps moreso, but this was the second time I had been invited, and despite our political differences, they have treated me well. Today the callers to the show ran 10-1 or more against the decision, which did not surprise me. I kept my stance fairly moderate -- I did not explicitly support or attack the decision. My main point was simply that yesterday's decision is just a step, and that this is probably the case that will compel the Supreme Court to take a stance on this contentious but, I would argue, ultimately fairly insignificant issue.
The interesting aspect of the argument of those who called in outraged over the judge's decision is how many of them asked a question without being willing to entertain its converse: Why do they care so much about these two little words? Well, yes -- why indeed do YOU care so much about these two little words? If one side of an argument is important to a group of people, it should be a fairly reasonable assumption that the other side is just as important to those who advocate it.
I am glad that the pledge is said in schools for patriotic reasons. I would just as soon remove "Under God" from the pledge for a host of reasons. not the least of these is that in the Pledge as Francis Bellamy, editor of Youth's Companion, originally wrote it in 1892 did not include those words. Bellamy thought that it would be a nice gesture for American schoolchildren to offer something to their nation in unison in conjunction with the dedication day ceremonies for the forthcoming Chicago World's Fair. (Students in my survey are reading Erik Larson's spellbinding The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness and the Fair That Changed America, which is where I learned the details behind the Pledge). "Under God" was only added in 1954, at the height of the Cold War. Apparently the invocation of the higher power did not have the desired effect, as our victory in that conflict would still be nearly four decades in the making.
Callers also seemed to believe that somehow by "Under God" not being included in what by any account is a pretty perfunctory undertaking their rights were being denied, but of course no one is being told that they cannot worship how they would like. They are simply being told that they cannot worship when and where they like, especially if the "when" is during public school hours and the "where" is on school grounds. Public school is an apt, perhaps ideal, place to teach civics and even to teach the values that will then promote patriotism. It is not time for demogoguery over your kids' right to worship, which is not being denied. (Interestingly, lots of people try to claim that "Under God" is not a form of enforced worship while at the same time claiming that by not being allowed to say those same words, their right to worship was being denied, an argument so ludicrous and impossible to grasp that somewhere a theology professor's head just exploded.)
In any case, it now appears that the Supreme Court will have to address this vexing but ultimately not especially consequential issue. For the record, I do not see this court, in which I will include Roberts, as he will be confirmed by a comfortable margin, striking down the Pledge as it stands. It may not even be that close of a vote.
1 comment:
Chris --
There you go again with the same opld nonsense. You don't even have the courtesy to bother to couch it in anything other than the same terms. Worse than being butt naked wrong, which we've come to expect from you, is that you cannot even take the time to provide a scintilla of originality.
I'll tell you the thing I am most sicvk of Xhris - the constant and unfounded accusation of my supposed ignorance. I'll let readers decide which one of us they think is smarter than the other. You speak of my fallacies, my blindness, and yet you give no examples. You would make a heck of a demagogue were you more compelling.
We've all covered the terrain of the irony of you accusing the rest of us of being ideological. You've still, after 2-3 years, never actually been able to pinpoint what that ideology is, and how your knee-jerk opposition does not provide simply a dafter oppositional ideology. When everyonme else is ideological, it might be time to look in the mirror to see who the tru ideologue is. But once again you go off on your haranguing little j'accuse without actually engaging in the tangibles of what I wrote. My entire post was about the Pledge of Allegiance. You suddenly come out with pretty much the same diatribe you always use -- how on earth is my post about the things you are talking about? It's as if you have tourettes syndrome.
dcat
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